Bronte Creek Salmon Poaching

Province Launching Investigation Into Ontario’s Bronte Creek Salmon Poaching

The most sickening thing about this passion we all have, fishing, is the people who go about it in the most unethical, and illegal ways they can.  Its fall in Ontario again, and our rivers look like it…

Finally the Ministry of Natural Resources is stepping up, follow this link to read the story on the Inside Halton website:

 

Bronte Creek Salmon Investigation

This is the time of year that some of the worst anglers come out to play.

It’s fall, and we have many species of migratory salmon and trout entering the great lakes tributaries.  While many folks choose to angle these fish in legal, ethical ways, many more choose to create their own rules in regards to fishing these species.

Probably one of the most predominant problems during this time of year is the snagging of these fish in the streams.  Salmon in particular, being such a large fish, are easily targeted with illegal angling methods.  Quite often you’ll find “Anglers” on the streams toting stiff rods spooled with 30 lb braid.  Attached to the end of their line is nothing more than a treble hook and a large weight.  Fish are snagged in shallow water and hauled in quickly where they meet their fate.

That fate quite often comes when the “angler” removes his knife from its sheath, and slices the fish open, alive, from gill to tail.  Why?  To obtain the roe inside the fish, leaving the remains of the fish on the bank, or in the stream.  These salmon and trout are on their way upstream, migrating to reach spawning grounds far upriver.  Following the salmon run, which consists mostly of Chinook salmon with some Coho salmon, the rainbow trout, or steelhead begins entering the streams as well.  Steelhead are what anglers want the roe for.

It is illegal to kill a fish and allow the meat to spoil.  End of the story.

I recently participated in a discussion an a local Ontario fishing forum extending my thoughts on dead fish littering our river banks every fall.

Below are a few excerpts from what I had to say in that discussion.

I’m not including discussion from other folks in this without their permission.

Discussion Point # 1

“The issue really isn’t whether or not brown roe or salmon roe is better.

The issue is that roe is still legal to use as bait in Ontario.

End that, and you’ll end a massive amount of the ###### we see on Great Lakes tribs every fall.

CRAA should look into changing the entire river to a single barbless, no organic bait river. It works on the upper river, and would be a prime example setter for many of the other tribs.”

Discussion Point # 2

“This gutted fish topic comes up every year, and it gets worse every year too.

It won’t be long before people are reporting gutted atlantics on the river. If people can’t even distinguish between a male and female pacific salmon, theres no way they’re going to be able to even tell what an atlantic salmon is?

On a river like this, with such substantial restoration and recovery work occuring, it makes sense to impose much stiffer regulations in the entire watershed. I see unknowing fisher people every year in a couple of the headwaters tribs keeping young atlantics assuming they are browns. I’ve reported it, I’ve had conversations with these people catching them, and most don’t even know what they are in fact catching.

Many, many people try to slam the initiatives of CRAA in the Atlantic Salmon restoration project. Obviously these folks have probably never seen and atlantic, or hooked into one for that matter. You think steelhead are lively?? I for one am far more interested in seeing once native species return to our rivers. Even that coaster Brookie that showed up a couple of times before its death showed promise that something positive was happening with the river.

And Justin, I’m definitely game for meetings, as well as volunteering time. Most of the volunteer work I have done has been on Huron and GB tribs.

Like Mike, I don’t really fish the credit much, and thats mainly due to what goes on down there. I’d love to see some changes made, and not just on the Credit either.

Aside from that, I’d urge yourself, Justin, or any other CRAA affiliate to come sign up on the Fly Fish Ontario website so you are able to post any and all information about upcoming meetings, volunteer requests, anything that you think might be of interest to like minded, conservation oriented folks.”

Discussion Point # 3

“WOW!!

I certainly didn’t mean to stir the pot up so bad when I commented that roe should be banned.

My reason for suggesting that had absolutely nothing to do with the harvesting of fish. I harvest a fish or two every year, mind you, not out of the credit. I’d have a hard time bringing myself to eat something out of Lake Ontario.

I suggested a roe ban to end the mindless killing of fish not only on the credit, but on ALL of our rivers. It works out west on many systems, and out east it works wonders. If I was pushing for a roe ban, it would be across Ontario, period. People illegally obtaining roe far outnumber those who are doing it legally.

People can’t even ID male vs. female fish for crying out loud.

We’ve even got someone posting in here that slicing, taking roe and dumping the carcass on the riverbank is legal. Come On!!! Pick up the bloody reg book and read it. Keep it beside your crapper and learn it. It really bothers me when people make claims that the regs are too hard to understand. I call BULL on that, they are laid out plain and simple.

I fully realize that there are many, MANY, responsible folks out there who are legally fishing, catching and obtaining roe. Those people are not the issue at all. I know and fish with plenty of them.”

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7 thoughts on “Bronte Creek Salmon Poaching

  1. Its unfortunate that these idiots can’t obtain roe legally but I am with you, its probably time we looked at the possibility of banning on many if not all of these rivers.

    Rumblings out of the government don’t look good with many ministries facing extreme budget cuts in the coming year(s), this will likely mean enforcement by the MNR will not be enhanced.

  2. Its unfortunate that these idiots can’t obtain roe legally but I am with you, its probably time we looked at the possibility of banning on many if not all of these rivers.

    Rumblings out of the government don’t look good with many ministries facing extreme budget cuts in the coming year(s), this will likely mean enforcement by the MNR will not be enhanced.

  3. The ministry walks up to a pool, shocks it with a long cattle prod, takes the belly-up fish and removes the roe/sperm, leaves the body for the rest of the ecosystem. Where is the problem here? They are preserving the fish you are fighting so much for. Screw chinook, bring back atlantic.

  4. The ministry walks up to a pool, shocks it with a long cattle prod, takes the belly-up fish and removes the roe/sperm, leaves the body for the rest of the ecosystem. Where is the problem here? They are preserving the fish you are fighting so much for. Screw chinook, bring back atlantic.

  5. Ontario is wimpy. Jackasses that write and say what’s the big deal should be put in prison. Take away their rights. We recycle, conserve, reuse and compost, but we absolutely tolerate wasting of precious resources because the cowboys want it that way and the regulators wimp out. I say we do a Giuliani: “Zero Tolerance”. Enforce the rules and kick ass. Hear that ministry???

  6. Ontario is wimpy. Jackasses that write and say what’s the big deal should be put in prison. Take away their rights. We recycle, conserve, reuse and compost, but we absolutely tolerate wasting of precious resources because the cowboys want it that way and the regulators wimp out. I say we do a Giuliani: “Zero Tolerance”. Enforce the rules and kick ass. Hear that ministry???

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